ibop wrote:The guys reckon he is in sufficient form to get a place with a US college.
I reckon he is in form for a Senior England call up, excellent skills & athleticism
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ibop wrote:The guys reckon he is in sufficient form to get a place with a US college.
UKLaxfan wrote:dmiddie wrote:I can see it all now -
Due to increased tuition fees and less government funding, less UK and EU students can afford to fill university places, both undergraduate and post graduate. This leads to universities looking further afield to fill places, maybe even postgrad lacrosse players on cheap Masters courses? These guys take out loans in the US that they can hardly afford to repay, the lenders package up these loans into CDS’s and sell them on to gullible British banks! These banks run into financial problems and the British government prints money to bail them out. Bingo, we end up with NCAA lacrosse players raising the level of lacrosse at UK universities, paid for by the British government, despite pulling the plug on funding university places for UK students. Result, students take to the streets to march and protest at the injustice of it all!
Chicken Licken strikes again
I think you should put your tinfoil hat on and hide under the bed
dmiddie wrote:So who's Foxy Loxy?
UKLaxfan wrote:ibop wrote:The guys reckon he is in sufficient form to get a place with a US college.
I reckon he is in form for a Senior England call up, excellent skills & athleticism
Ketts19 wrote:UKLaxfan wrote:
The NCAA takes students from all over the World who are the best at their sport
There are no restrictions on number of Canadian Ice Hockey or Lacrosse players
or Kenyan middle distance runners, or New Zealand Rugby players
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But (correct me if I'm wrong) there is a cap on the number of scholarships (full, half, athletic and/or academic) offered is there not?
the pom wrote:So that American UNI is no benefit to American tennis players.
do you have to pay to watch NCAA games?
The difference is in the UK the tax payer funds the uni so we are paying for American players to fill rosters stopping English players playing and subsidizing foreign education at no benefit to the tax payer.
Yes they pay a fee but it not the true cost.
the pom wrote:So that American UNI is no benefit to American tennis players.
do you have to pay to watch NCAA games?
The difference is in the UK the tax payer funds the uni so we are paying for American players to fill rosters stopping English players playing and subsidizing foreign education at no benefit to the tax payer.
Yes they pay a fee but it not the true cost.
dmiddie wrote:the pom wrote:So that American UNI is no benefit to American tennis players.
do you have to pay to watch NCAA games?
The difference is in the UK the tax payer funds the uni so we are paying for American players to fill rosters stopping English players playing and subsidizing foreign education at no benefit to the tax payer.
Yes they pay a fee but it not the true cost.
Someone who does understand tax and finance. At a time when there's massive arguments over the government financing of further education it might be argued that uni's should get every last $ out of foreign students who wish to take up education here, not let them pay reduced fees. We may all love lacrosse and want to see it develop in this country, but some would argue that higher education of UK students is a more fundamental issue, and should be dealt with first. Then again, some people are still living in a dream world believing that you can continue to borrow to overspend, or just print what money you don't have. Some say that some uni's have plenty of money but believe it or not, its not necessarily hard cash and available to spend, otherwise they would not be trying to raise tuition fees.
the bbc wrote:Foreign students are worth an estimated £8bn to the UK and the fees they pay for their courses underpin the finances of the higher education sector.
6x6 wrote:Ketts19 wrote:UKLaxfan wrote:
The NCAA takes students from all over the World who are the best at their sport
There are no restrictions on number of Canadian Ice Hockey or Lacrosse players
or Kenyan middle distance runners, or New Zealand Rugby players
(
But (correct me if I'm wrong) there is a cap on the number of scholarships (full, half, athletic and/or academic) offered is there not?
Sorry I'm a bit tired as it's late where I am but if you're inquiring about the NCAA the answer is yes and no. DI lacrosse they are allowed 12.6 full rides, DII 10.8 and DIII does not offer athletic scholarships nor does the Ivy League schools, but there is no limit on what financial aid they can award (at least to my knowlege).
To UKlaxfan's point, let me provide an example. While finishing her gradutae work in Sports Medicine/Athletic Training, my daughter was the trainer for the women's volllyball team and the women's tennis team at Texas State University. The school has approximately 25,000 students. When she was there, there were only 2 American girls on the tennis team.
Check out the link for the roster and you'll notice that there are no Americans on the team for the upcoming season.
http://www.txstatebobcats.com/roster.aspx?path=wten
I guess the Athletic Director doesn't have a problem importing outside talent!
the pom wrote:So that American UNI is no benefit to American tennis players.
do you have to pay to watch NCAA games?
The difference is in the UK the tax payer funds the uni so we are paying for American players to fill rosters stopping English players playing and subsidizing foreign education at no benefit to the tax payer.
Yes they pay a fee but it not the true cost.
Tommy88 wrote:6x6 wrote:Ketts19 wrote:UKLaxfan wrote:
The NCAA takes students from all over the World who are the best at their sport
There are no restrictions on number of Canadian Ice Hockey or Lacrosse players
or Kenyan middle distance runners, or New Zealand Rugby players
(
But (correct me if I'm wrong) there is a cap on the number of scholarships (full, half, athletic and/or academic) offered is there not?
Sorry I'm a bit tired as it's late where I am but if you're inquiring about the NCAA the answer is yes and no. DI lacrosse they are allowed 12.6 full rides, DII 10.8 and DIII does not offer athletic scholarships nor does the Ivy League schools, but there is no limit on what financial aid they can award (at least to my knowlege).
To UKlaxfan's point, let me provide an example. While finishing her gradutae work in Sports Medicine/Athletic Training, my daughter was the trainer for the women's volllyball team and the women's tennis team at Texas State University. The school has approximately 25,000 students. When she was there, there were only 2 American girls on the tennis team.
Check out the link for the roster and you'll notice that there are no Americans on the team for the upcoming season.
http://www.txstatebobcats.com/roster.aspx?path=wten
I guess the Athletic Director doesn't have a problem importing outside talent!
I also have to disagree with the comparison of BUCS to NCAA, its all fine saying that lots of American uni's bring in a number of English players to play football or other foreign players to play tennis, but does that mean its a good idea?...Correct me If i'm wrong but the influx of British footballers into American Uni's has not improved the MLS! I'm not saying that the Americans at Durham are not improving the lax there because obviously they are, or that if any other uni could (or had the money to) bring in a few NCAA players on scholarships it would not improve lax in Britain. But justifying it simply by saying its fine because the same thing happens in the states seem's a little pointless. The NCAA is an enormous competition broadcast world wide, which in many sports, including Lax, American Football, Basketball and Baseball over there is a stepping stone to the pro's....BUCS on the other hand is not. Yes many university's here have students who have and will represent their countries and clubs at their sports, but as mentioned, with the current climate sport is the last thing on the minds of most university's.