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Postby chippie Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:10 pm

bham v aber....aber conceeded
so once again a team we should beat with a good goal diff to help has conceeded against us!

anyways get to watch lboro v warwick !
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Postby jivingjohn Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:02 pm

Adds credence to the argument that you should stuff a team by as many as you can when they are put in front of you!!

Shame for the Aber guys, they didn't have enough for a team. And we even tried lending them some of our team (I know, they didn't want to lower their standard!!).

It has been a close season this year, and has certainly made for some good matches. We've still got a couple of cup finals to play, which should be good.

Ah well.
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Postby Mat P Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:26 pm

jivingjohn wrote:Adds credence to the argument that you should stuff a team by as many as you can when they are put in front of you!!


Why?
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Postby Paul_lboro/wildcats Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:38 pm

Cos if we draw with Warwick then League goes down to goal average once we have played Aber (I think). Don't really agree with it but those are the rules.
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Postby fresher309 Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:38 pm

Mat P wrote:
jivingjohn wrote:Adds credence to the argument that you should stuff a team by as many as you can when they are put in front of you!!


Why?

because in a league which can be won on goal diference, that 10-0 for a walkover just doens't cut it against as 20+goal win (i rekon they should do it on results against each other to decide places, but you cant change the rules halfway through a season)
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Postby chippie Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:45 pm

not saying it is correct or not to stuff a team however....if the mids league for example did come down to goal diff which i think it could still do so....

warwick against aber: 1 game conceeded, other game + 39 goals = 49 goals
bham against aber: 2 games conceeded = 20 goals

and almost the same situation with games vs keele and glos uni....when these teams have played a game against warwick and warwick getting good scores and these teams conceededing twice against bham!
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Postby Sour37 Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:36 pm

Chippie, I think you're right, aber conceed to stop brum winning the league

an admirable sentiment in my opinion!
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Postby J-Lo Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:40 pm

goal average has no effect on a championship as far as i'm aware.

in anycase goal average is not counted where teams didn't fulfil fixtures, i.e matches against Aber would not count in the comparison.

The above is to the best of knowledge for the East 2 league.
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Postby Princess Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:43 pm

Sour37 wrote:Chippie, I think you're right, aber conceed to stop brum winning the league

an admirable sentiment in my opinion!


joking or not there?
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Postby Sour37 Fri Mar 07, 2008 4:50 pm

half joking 1st

deadly serious 2nd
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Postby chippie Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:02 pm

J-Lo wrote:goal average has no effect on a championship as far as i'm aware.

in anycase goal average is not counted where teams didn't fulfil fixtures, i.e matches against Aber would not count in the comparison.

The above is to the best of knowledge for the East 2 league.


if teams are tied on points then.....?

if matches dont count when conceeded then why do they get put as 10-0?
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Postby chippie Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:03 pm

Sour37 wrote:Chippie, I think you're right, aber conceed to stop brum winning the league!


you know what i think you maybe right....!

if only lboro could help us out by losing to warwick.... :?
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Postby mandy Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:13 pm

Paul_lboro/wildcats wrote:Cos if we draw with Warwick then League goes down to goal average once we have played Aber (I think). Don't really agree with it but those are the rules.

Try reading the rules of the league then!

sub clause h of the league championship bit should educate you enough as to why its pointless racking up a cricket score against weaker opposition, and as to why you are so hopelessly wrong here
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Postby chippie Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:23 pm

mandy....so wise!

"Where the teams with the same number of points are involved in promotion or relegation, seasonal goal average shall be ignored and promotion or relegation shall be determined by the results of the games between those teams (including if necessary goal difference in those matches). Where this fails to separate the teams or there are more than two teams with same number of points, then the team with the most wins shall be placed ahead of the other team(s). Should this fail to resolve such matters, the same shall be determined by the spin of a coin made at the General Committee Meeting held in May, by the person chairing the said meeting.:

i do like the idea of a coin toss :D
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Postby Paul_lboro/wildcats Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:07 pm

But the Midlands has neither promotion or relegation.

So what happens there then? If it is indeed head to head then all the better.
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Postby J-Lo Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:23 pm

Its a championship so counts to the same purposes afaik.
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Postby chippie Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:41 pm

Paul_lboro/wildcats wrote:So what happens there then? If it is indeed head to head then all the better.


think we should go with goal difference!
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Postby JC Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:52 pm

Putting it as simply as I can:

Birmingham have played all their matches and have 36 points.

Warwick can't win because they are on 32 points with one match to play (hence maximum 35 points). But the game they have is with Loughborough.

Loughborough have 31 points with 2 games to play (Warwick and Aber). If Loughborough win both remaining games they win the title by 1 point.

Nottingham have 33 points with 1 game to play (Keele) so can reach a maximum of 36 points.

If Loughborough lose to Warwick then Birmingham and Nottingham will be tied on 36 points and the championship will be decided on the results of the games between those clubs:
Nottingham 9-11 Birmingham
Birmingham 10-c-0 Nottingham

Because Birmingham beat Nottingham twice they have the superior record and would win (if Loughborough lose to Warwick).

All very straight forward!
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Postby chippie Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:59 pm

thanks jon!

come on warwick!!
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Postby Paul_lboro/wildcats Fri Mar 07, 2008 8:27 pm

However if Loughborough draw with Warwick then beat Aber surely it comes to head to head between Lboro and Brum?
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