Growling/Barking/Talking about dogs ?

[JustaLAXbrah]

Ok, so up here in minnesota, STMA our team has a plan we use for distracting and sometimes even pulling pentalys on the opposing team. So what we do is when you play attack or defense, you growl and talk about dogs NONSTOP when the ball is on the other side. You also bark at the other team when they are trying scoop and pass. As D we put our heads on their chest. They get SO mad ! One kid started crying ! XD is that illegal ? Ive heard it's not. As long as your not pushing them.

[Moaning Git]

Well under international rules I reckon you can be called for unsportsmanlike behaviou and for holding

[dblacklock]

Putting your head on someones chest coul be spearing - personal foul - under NCAA or NFHS, - non releaseable personal foul

[dom#10]

by head i got the impression he meant head of the stick. in which case this would be legal as long as you're allowing them to play wouldnt it?

[dblacklock]

You are not allowed to contact a player more then 9 feet away from a loose ball. So in theory by placing your stick on opponent you are interferring. I see this tactic used a lot by defenders who place their stick on the player they are marking so that that they can feel if the player is still there whilst they look around. i warn quite a bit on this, but if it becomes a problem I will throw a flag.

[DanSawyer]

The dogs bit I suspect you may get an unsportsmanlike call, especially if you're trying to put them off by barking as they pass. Also, you will seem like bunch of &@£*s...

[SprungMonkey]

What about cats...?

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[Dining Room]

it doesn't sound distracting - just odd!

[snooplax]

You are not allowed to contact a player more then 9 feet away from a loose ball. So in theory by placing your stick on opponent you are interferring. I see this tactic used a lot by defenders who place their stick on the player they are marking so that that they can feel if the player is still there whilst they look around. i warn quite a bit on this, but if it becomes a problem I will throw a flag.

"Resting" a stick on a attack guy is something I have coached for near 20 years and will continue to do so. To call that a foul is harsh to say the very least.

[DanSawyer]

As an attacker, is grabbing the offending longstick and throwing it into the other half of the pitch allowed?

[dblacklock]

[quote="Resting" a stick on a attack guy is something I have coached for near 20 years and will continue to do so. To call that a foul is harsh to say the very least.[/quote]

There are many things that coaches teach that are perhaps illegal. But as the old adage goes , nothing is illegal until you are caught. But don't complain when your player is called, as you now know that it is illegal.

I don't necessarily agree with all the rules, but yet still have to call them.

[davewilliams]

As an attacker, is grabbing the offending longstick and throwing it into the other half of the pitch allowed?

I wouldn't advocate your idea, but no player has to tolerate being impeded illegally. Some defenders may not comprehend though so expect some D-moaning.

[dblacklock]

As an attacker, is grabbing the offending longstick and throwing it into the other half of the pitch allowed?

I wouldn't advocate your idea, but no player has to tolerate being impeded illegally. Some defenders may not comprehend though so expect some D-moaning.

Grabbing and throwing the opposition's stick is not only interference, but Unsportsmanlike conduct.

Here is an interesting situation though.

Red in possession in the attack half Blue 17 grabs red 10 stick and throws across the centre line.
Refeee throws a flag.
Red 10 goes across half to get his stick causing an off side situation.
Referee blows downn play.
Red 10 then slashes Blue 17.

The call could go like this:

Simultaneous Fouls
Blue 17 - 1 min UC
Red 10 - 30 Sec Off Side (perhaps viewed as harsh but the correct call)
Red 10- 1 min slash

Blue get the ball where it was when the first foul was committed.

I can just imagine the reaction from red when he finds he has to serve the off side as well and blue getting the ball.

Now, a seasoned referee might look at it and give Blue 17 a 2 min UC, which would then give red the ball where the ball was at the time of the first foul. No free clears on simulteneous fouls

[DanSawyer]

I should like to make it clear that I was joking!

In your scenario, though, could you not also justify more than 1minute for the red player? Slashing a player after the whistle has gone, in deliberate revenge for what he did to you? Sounds like USC or unnecessary roughness to me, and worth more than a 1min slash call, shurely?

It would also constitute an assault...

[Mort rotu]

further to that, what if the D pole picked up the attacker and carried him with him to retrieve his stick, causing both teams to go offside?

[dblacklock]

Easy - Holding and offside - 2 technical fouls. Whistle as the player is off side, because he was caried off side so therefore he would not be deemed off side.

[LPierce]

Having read this about the head being in contact and it being deemed unsportsmanlike what's the call on someone standing in your head?
I'm a keeper and often when I clamp the ball outside the crease and there's a bit of a tussle someone on the other team will put their foot in my head stopping me being able to rake the ball or do much else... And I have been called for withholding the ball?!

[rpowell]

Having read this about the head being in contact and it being deemed unsportsmanlike what's the call on someone standing in your head?
I'm a keeper and often when I clamp the ball outside the crease and there's a bit of a tussle someone on the other team will put their foot in my head stopping me being able to rake the ball or do much else... And I have been called for withholding the ball?!

Technical foul by person with his foot on your stick.

[dblacklock]

Having read this about the head being in contact and it being deemed unsportsmanlike what's the call on someone standing in your head?
I'm a keeper and often when I clamp the ball outside the crease and there's a bit of a tussle someone on the other team will put their foot in my head stopping me being able to rake the ball or do much else... And I have been called for withholding the ball?!

Technical foul by person with his foot on your stick.

Agreed, Techncial foul for Illegal Procedure or a hold - take your pick. If the player were to do this when teh ball is trapped under the stick and the ball is ouchng the crease, then you now have a flag and the foul becomes time serve as the goalie is deemed to be possession inside the crease